13 November 2020, Lynnette - start with checking if the cheque was cleared. If theres a name missing then you can apply to update the register and include a copy of driving licence or passport (name page). 20 February 2018. Thanks, Comment by AdamH So the act requires them to do something, which they did in the Conveyance so there is no ambiguity. posted on My generosity of disposition did not last long because then I remembered that I had sent him a scan of a letter from his firm dated 2002 by Email saying, "Your deeds are safely stored in the strong room" I told him in that Email that as far as I was concerned those words referred to a set of paper documents and not a computerised deed of title which would not be stored in the strong room but on a computer hard drive." A referred to in the guidance, you can also order a copy of the title plan (also 3) showing the general extent of the property. FENSA and Oil/has/electrical certificates Please speak to your solicitor to arrange and confirm. We have checked and she is registered, as were we. AdamH Norma L, Comment by My property was sold on right to buy scheme by sitting tenants after 25 years. 21 March 2019. This is a blog and not a forum so you can only add comments. posted on Find Catawba County Housing Characteristics and Mortgage Characteristics. As their conveyancer has not been very good at all sadly, Amber - an expedited first registration would be considered within 10 working days of it being expedited. The government now have full legal control of their slave aboard their Corporate Ship being lost at sea, giving them liberty but not freedom to walk the land. If the claim was seen to be initially valid and the land is registered we would then write to you at the contact details on your register to seek your view - hence the need to get legal advice, Comment by posted on Brian Leahy AdamH AdamH 29 July 2019, Paul - you'll need to get the named lender to discharge their charge. Ruckledge and (3) Steven John Robinson and Denise Robinson. AdamH I am disgusted that nobody seems to know where they are! posted on Privacy Policy We have something but always though this covanent was for our property not his as the land map is not clear. no.3 Restriction: No disposition of the registered estate by the proprietor of the registered estate is to be registered without written consent signed by the Secretary of State for Transport or his conveyancer that the provisions of the Schedule within the Transfer dated 20 June 2007 have been complied with. 22 November 2020, I totally agree and I'm having the same issues. 25 May 2018. Now we are looking to sell our property and see there is an error on the registration. What should we do ? posted on Comment by lp82533 Comment by 9. Rick, Comment by 22 January 2019. The house was originally purchased direct from the council in 2006 and we didn't need to use a solicitor. H You are going to tell me that it is registered in my name, if someone was to challenge that in a court with the original deeds saying they had been living in another country for the last 20 years and come home to their house and found me living in it i would be looking to you at the land registry for answers and you would tell me? Comment by Comment by The couple are elderly and I feel for them Many, if they had one, referred to these as the paper deeds. posted on AdamH I will go back to Santander for further information and let you know how I get on! NOTE: Original filed. S Scott- you should search and check the register first. Our mortgage lender didn't have the title deeds or our solicitor at the time of sale didn't either. I'm gratified with the way that hmlandregistry.blog.gov.uk deals with this kind of topic! JohnnyW posted on 24 October 2019. Please note that the servient land was (not registered) still owned by the council when our land was registered. Title deeds are paper documents showing thechain of ownership for land and property. This should be sent to HM Land Registry Citizen Centre, PO Box 74, Gloucester GL14 9BB". EX39 5QF, Comment by I have a similar predicament to Sandra, the convayancing solicitor for Santander, my lender, tells me they forwarded all the documentation to my property built in the 1850s to the Land Regisrty. Or could it have been destroyed already (it was back in the 2000s)? That will shorten the wait time between receipt and consideration to around 2 weeks. When we paid off our mortgage, our provider returned all documents relating to our property, stating that the Land Registry held electronic copies. posted on 06 November 2018, Hi Ian thanks for your response. AdamH Everything then hinges on it being in order and registerable of course, Comment by Liz - if the property is registered then that confirms the ownership. 26 June 2019. Leela - please note the wording '(a) to grant with the dwelling-house all such easements and rights over other property, so far as the landlord is capable of granting them .. (b) to make the dwelling-house subject to all such easements and rights for the benefit of other property ' John Is the Land Registry likely to hold a list of title deeds for those years between 1927 and 1995? AdamH 20 May 2020, Joanne - theres no DD option by post so it would be a postal order you need. 05 November 2018. Chris - youd normally reserve/grant any rights as appropriate on sale. She sent a copy of the land registry and I could see where this was. ianflowers Please do contact us is you'd like us to look into your particular case: https://help.landregistry.gov.uk/app/contactus_general/?utm_medium=newsletter&utm_source=govuk&utm_campaign=death_contact_page_to_contact_form&utm_content=web_page . Lauren Jones 12 September 2018, Louise - the average timescale is around 34 working days at present. Extinguishing the right and removing the covenant is something you'll need to discuss with your conveyancer as it seems likely that in order to do so you would need the consent/cooperation of the neighbour who shares the access for example. Good morning, Hi. The bank cannot find any trace of the title deeds or any trace that there was a mortgage/account after searching by name and DOB. I have recently purchased my Right To Buy Maisonette Flat. The problem I have is that I've just been told that my deeds could have been destroyed after been copied onto electronic copies to save on space. AdamH As you'll see, the process is quite involved and usually involves a legal professional acting on the owner's behalf. Still Confused Register of Deeds Main: (828)465-1573 . If you are looking to now register the same easements on your own title you would need to make an application to do so and supply supporting evidence as appropriate. I was told the title deeds were changed to my name only, I have now sold my house and couldn't find an updated copy of the deeds. posted on Comment by Sam, Sam - all understood but I cant help without the specifics I mentioned, Comment by Theda Bara Apologies if this is the incorrect portal but I was wondering; if you could help us with some info. Jim posted on We don't check for you as you should rely on your lender to confirm. The garage leasehold title we have obtained is current and up-to-date and should not contain a charge from the pre-existing seller of 2003 AdamH If the intention was for both names but that did not happen then the error occurred when the conveyancing was done and not when the registration of that Transfer took place. Which form is it to apply for a copy of the deeds. Hello Adam, Adam, first of all thanks for your prompt reply. Thanks If you bought an unregistered property in 2014 then we would have returned the submitted deeds and created a digital register as explained in the article. I was hoping for some advice. Our records show that the solicitor did contact us regarding expediting the application in early October but this was refused. posted on As such those specific rights are already registered on each title, Comment by Perform a free Catawba County, NC public record search, including arrest, birth, business, contractor, court, criminal, death, divorce, employee, genealogy, GIS, inmate, jail, land, marriage, police, property, sex offender, tax, vital, and warrant records searches. posted on posted on We have just finished paying off our mortgage and our house is now registered with the land registry and we have a copy of this which our lender sent us. Leon - I am sorry to hear of your father's ill health. AdamH Surely if all other documents/deeds are held by land registry, which they are, then should that not be enough evidence that the house is our property. I have only recently registered my property with Land Registry and I possess the original Title Deeds which will not show the revised boundary, although the agreed boundary will be registered through due process with Land Registry. If the land is not registered or it's registered to next door then we won't have any details of the purchase you refer to. Julia E Stuart rawcliffe Unfortunately, the digital record doesn't outline the parcel of land that forms the parchment conveyance and our solicitor didnt check before handing over all the paperwork to us. Adam, thanks for the reply that has put my mind at rest, and you never know I still might get them as I did pay for them, keep up the good work! I have been told that this error is likely to have occurred at the Land Registry. You also then need to consider that we are not a deeds repository, even though we had so man6 paper files. Click here to acknowledge this disclaimer and enter the site . DISCLAIMER: By North Carolina law, this office cannot prepare or assist with the preparation of legal documents. 11 November 2019. posted on Comment by I feel though that we should not overlook the elephant in the room in that the Land Registrys scanning process has not been infallible and I would have thought that a substantial proportion of your audience has, at one time or another, been told that the Registry does not have a copy of a document that is referred to as being filed. Then the deeds such as old conveyances would not be required to prove your ownership. Comment by 12 June 2020. posted on posted on but thanks for your help on this matter. From the comment I suspect you have a copy of the register. And as you are now aware from the blog article on boundaries the registered details will rarely categorically answer any questions around who owns or is responsible for a boundary. Comment by The online service does provide an example of the title plan for example so you can see what information you are buying. posted on However, I am aware that the current owner bought the property in good faith from the last owner WITH 1/2 the wash house, and it seems that the seller had decided to register it in his name without my knowledge! Additional (multi-instrument): $10.00 Comment by Does the bank really NEED to see these documents? As the deed is published I would believe that it is not amendable if I wished it to now permit me bringing such animals onto my property because it could affect others. This is holding up the exchange of contracts and we need to move asap! posted on 05 November 2018, Hello posted application OC2 for title plan and register documents for some properties today but can't see anywhere a reference as to how long it will take to get these? 11 March 2018. When your solicitor has submitted it then they will need to supply documentary evidence to confirm the onward purchase and also ask us to expedite their application. If there is a linked transaction such as a confirmed onward sale then the solicitor should provide those details/evidence and ask us to consider expediting their application. When you do your buyer/lender will get a copy of the title from us so they have the current record rather than one you got a number of years earlier. warranty deed, quit claim deed, etc.) posted on posted on posted on 15 March 2019, If I live with my parents and both parents die, do I need to register the house in my name to continue living there, or can I leave the deeds in their name, continue living there and also avoid paying Inheritance tax, Comment by About Us Contact Us posted on posted on Sorry to have troubled you. 03 December 2018. posted on Hopefully it will be completed soon, Comment by On the latter document in panel 9 they were required to fulfil the amount as directed in panel 7. Comment by A document such as a transfer from the developer to the first house owner will obviously give definitive information as to ownership and the age of the house. posted on I am trying to get a hold of the title deeds - if indeed I need them, for a property that I have recently finished my last mortgage payment with. These include the indexing and recording of legal documents such as Deeds, Deeds of Trust, Satisfactions of Deeds of Trust, Powers of Attorney, Maps/Plats, Easements, Rights-Of-Way, Assumed Names, Separation Agreements, Fixture Filings, etc. I am in the process of buying a leasehold flat. Some lenders may store title deeds. Thank you so much! How can we right this situation so that we don't have the same problem when we next try to move? Catawba County . The Book links to the Register of Deeds. posted on 17 January 2019, Frank - if it is unregistered and the deeds lost then our Practice Guide 2 is your starting point as to how to now register it. AdamH posted on Youll need to resolve this through Santander with details of your original mortgage account number and record of payments. John Kath - the deeds as far as we are concerned would usually constitute the title register (including information as to the current owner), the title plan - showing the general extent of the property and a copy of any deeds or documents referred to as filed on the title register. My solicitor insists they don't own the property just the ground rent. We purchased land next to our property in 1978. Comment by As mentioned in the blog, where a property is bought after being registered for the first time, the pre-registration deeds may or may not be handed over to the new buyer making them very difficult to trace in some circumstances. Please suggest. As far as how long it takes to then register? Hi. What can we do? You also have to prove you are the named legal owner, so the person named in the old deed or indeed the person now named on the land register. Any advice would be much appreciated! The planning process is quite separate so such items won;t be needed by us when we examine the title. Can you please tell me which document I need to purchase from the Land Registry that would give me the details of any covenants relating to a freehold property. posted on posted on Thank you Adam, my husband has reminded me that the form we filled in will be in his name john Yardley as we were not married at the time we bought the house,don't know if that will make any difference, I have so much appreciation for any dealing with forms all day 07 October 2020, We're in the process of selling our property. Solicitors have obtained title deeds for us but are saying title destination does not state who will receive dads 1/2 now he has died. 18 September 2020, Andrew - I can see that youve contacted us twice re this and your second email, of todays date, is awaiting a reply. King Hi, I have some large conifers beyond my garden beyond the communial footpath and two fences, there is a waterway Just the other side of them, I am trying to verify ownership of these trees as I believe they pose a threat to my house I have contacted the council in the past and struggled to get clarification a relative advised me to look at the deeds but I only have the title not the map, I have now obtained from your site according to the red on it the trees are within the perimeter, is there some sort of document I can obtain with written evidence of the trees and water way and any potential documentation, I dont appear to have the original deeds which may or may not have contained them? 22 April 2018. Please Send Message if you find errors in the data. I own several properties and I have the bundles for all of the others. 20 February 2018. The deeds and land registry show very clearly that the land is within my boundary. And also have no idea how long this process can take, since this is a rare scenario. Title and Deeds were, and probably still are, held (retained) by your mortgage lender, up until you have finally paid your last penny owing to them, this is because, the Title and Deeds belong to the rightful owner of the said property, and the lender is the rightful owner until the mortgage has been satisfied, when that time comes, the mortgagee will approach the borrower to ask if they want their Title and Deeds, and usually charge a small fee, alternatively, if the borrower so wishes, the mortgagee will keep them in 'Deed Store' again for a fee. Anthony Rose So without specific details theres not much I can advise you on - sorry. posted on contacted my lender who sate they don't have them. Solicitors think its a mistake and have asked land registry to have the second lease removed however unfortunately we are not getting any replies. Dave Roberts We have the original parchment paper "This conveyance" from 1935. 18 October 2019, Hi Adam 10 May 2020, Bernard - no if you are the owner. I've gone onto land registry and there are 2 title deeds for our property- one for leasehold and one for freehold. posted on 09 April 2019, Dear AdamH, Guy - you need legal advice although much may depend on the tenant as to what they need to feel comfortable with paying rent to someone whose not the registered owner. The Catawba County Recorder of Deeds, located in Newton, North Carolina is a centralized office where public records are recorded, indexed, and stored in Catawba County, NC. posted on Paul McMillan posted on Part of my property is only accessible from rear passage way which used to be route of access path. 13 July 2020. I downloaded the title register for my property after paying off the mortgage on it and the bank have verified that the charge was removed. 12 March 2018, Rachael - I would suggest writing to the 'Owner' at the address to see if they would like them for example, Comment by 10 September 2018, Diane - I don;t recall that we advised lenders that 'the deeds were no longer needed'. How do i search for information on the land the house was built on if there are no deeds existing ? 29 May 2018, Bert - you need legal advice here as to what your rights, and their's, might be. Li - I would suggest contacting us initially to ascertain when the change was made and how. However, keep in mind the Office of the Register of Deeds does not engage in the rendering of legal or professional advice. Comment by It hasnt ever been registered as the owner has lived there for 40yrs. How do I find the document showing the land was purchased by the former owner of my house? C&G are now deceased and trying to find the right contact point at Lloyds Bank has been HELL. My solicitor seems to think the 'electronic record' of the deed is something different to the title register and title plan? I'd strongly recommend getting legal advice as to what your options are here and how best to proceed. cthomebuysolutions.com, Comment by posted on 18 February 2020, Keir - it reads as if it is something that your conveyancer would provide as it's 'from the conveyancing company', I have not heard of something like this before so I would suggest asking them to confirm and provide more details as to what it is and where you can get it, Comment by A really insightful overview of some of Land Registry's purpose and practices there, dispelling some previously held perceptions too. ianflowers posted on Comment by posted on 13 November 2020, Hi Adam, thanks for getting back to me, yes the cheque was cleared, I will do as you have advised, many thanks, Hi Adam, i did as you suggested but all that came back was what I needed to do about getting our title deeds, which I had done by filling in the form and sending a cheque, or I'm doing something completely wrong, your help once again would be appreciated I was told that they were sent to me in Jan 2018 following dematerialisation, however I never received the deeds, I asked them how and by who they were sent so I could look into them not being delivered, they did not give me this information and told me it is no longer necessary for deeds and documentation. After payment, how long does it take to receive a copy of the title register? posted on The PG1 and forms FR1/DL do provide a guide as to what is required but they cannot be simplified to the cover such a complex scenario as you now face. And what would be the fee involved? I meant I found a better comprehensive detailed plan through a google search, Comment by posted on They are exact in every other way except for the stamps therefore the material, size, historic script are the same. The property was named Milber with the title MX143011. If Im right in what you are saying the actual owner of the leases should have a copy in the event that the purchaser has lost their copy or in my case being supplied with one that cannot be read. posted on I feel like I'm in a real pickle about this and I'd be really grateful for some advice from someone who will give me a straight answer. The land agent is not replying or cooperating with this request. 13 March 2018. I would like to know more about its history and when it was built for insurance purposes. These addresses have been in use continually by the Post Office, and by the Local Authority for more than 20 years . I have obtained the basic title register and plan from land registry website. Comment by posted on Comment by I bought a new build house in December 2018 and I'm still waiting for the title to the property. it was sold once to the big estate in 1967 by his descendants and we purchased it from them. Sellers are not too bothered, they are an asset recovery business (reputable bank) therefore they are selling the house as presented. posted on Going through the vast bundle of guff they've sent me, do I really need to send everything and list it all on form DL or do I just need the conveyances and assents which show the effective creation of the individual property (it was originally the corner of a field) and its transaction history along with the searches I've done and probate? Martin Even the solicitor for the housing association was left unimpressed with my solicitor at the end of the process. posted on 01 February 2019. J Whitby (Quotes range from 200 - 250 per person traced and the initial trace for the people named on the land registry was only a preliminary process - if we couldn't trace them then we'd need to look at tracing an indeterminate number of people as you said to find the executors) This could run into thousands and simply isn't possible. ianflowers 03 June 2020, Comment by AdamH AdamH posted on Again speak to your conveyancer, Comment by Comment by There is a Deed of Variation mentioned in the leasehold title and also in the lease extension. AdamH Gillian posted on Pat As explained in my email to you previously its not an abridged version. For the purchase, we've been advised by our solicitor to get an indemnity insurance because of defect in title. What else do I need to do to find these originals, as I know we might have an issue with regards to a fence we share with a neighbour. Comment by They are not HMLR markings, Comment by 11 April 2018. Thank you. Be that before if after digitalisation as you call it. Many thanks. Fax: (828)465-1911 Catawba County Courthouse 100-B SW Blvd, Justice Center Newton, NC 28658 Can I still even buy the house and if so could this cause me a problem if someone turns up with the paper deed later?